When making a game is a game in itself
February 10th, 2012
10:02 AM ET

When making a game is a game in itself

By John D. Sutter, CNN

(CNN) - Something strange happened earlier this week: The people of the Internet - not exactly known for their generosity - gave $1 million in a SINGLE DAY to an online game that hasn't even been created yet.

Not only is this a milestone for Kickstarter, the "crowd funding" platform that made these donations possible; it's also an experiment in, as the blog ReadWriteWeb aptly described it, making a game out of the game-making process.

The game is called Double Fine Adventure. As of Friday morning, it had raised $1.2 million on the promise that:

With this project, we're taking that door off its hinges and inviting you into the world of Double Fine Productions, the first major studio to fully finance their next game with a Kickstarter campaign and develop it in the public eye ... This year, you'll be given a front-row seat as they revisit Tim's design roots and create a brand-new, downloadable "Point-and-Click" graphic adventure game for the modern age.

And here's why the group says it needs so much money (they only asked the Kickstarter community for $400,000):

Big games cost big money.  Even something as "simple" as an Xbox LIVE Arcade title can cost upwards of two or three million dollars.  For disc-based games, it can be over ten times that amount.

This is only the second time a Kickstarter project has received more than $1 million, according to The Verge, which says the project reached its $400,000 goal in less than eight hours.

Over at ReadWriteWeb, Marshall Kirkpatrick argues that by asking the Internet to support the game - giving them an urgent call to action and a chance to take a small part in something "epic" - the game creators have already started a game.

More from him:

Put all that within the context of a known brand (the game makers themselves), the well-executed but still-fresh infrastructure of Kickstarter and the end result of a game that is easy to afford ($15 gets you a download on Steam when it's done), and you've got a recipe for some gamified game creation. In this case, record levels of game creation.

Kirkpatrick also references a tweet from Jane McGonigal, whose "augmented reality" games are the stuff reporters (like me; see video below) love to write about because they're pushing the boundaries of what we consider to be a "game."

Here's what McGonigal tweeted yesterday to Double Fine's creator, Tim Schafer:

"You're making us all feel like we're a part of something historic ^_^"

It doesn't hurt that the creator's twitter handle is "TimOfLegend."

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      February 13, 2012 at 8:50 am | Reply
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    The people on kickstarter didn't give a game development studio a million bucks to make a new game.

    Gamers heard the call and put their money on Tim Schafer, who has a decades-long track record of making excellent entertainment, products worth owning. So his fans pre-ordered it from his studio.

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  33. CNNyouaredisgustingme

    Seriously CNN. Did you let a janitor write this nonsensical piece of text? The author doesn't even know what it's about! No reference of who 'Tim' is (which is the whole f-ing point, the guy's a computer game genius), mistaking the game name for the company name, citing a British rock band from the nineties in stead of The Verge, calling it an online game which it is'nt.... I hope this article is read by other news corps so they can rightfully mock you in every late night show for the rest of the week. Pathetic. Oh, and by the way, Tim Schafer's games' plots blow away any recent Hollywood movie – let alone CNN production. He wouldn't even NEED free donations to make you look like idiots.

    February 12, 2012 at 5:02 am | Reply
    • JP

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      February 12, 2012 at 11:30 am | Reply
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        February 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
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  35. Doc Brown

    CNN, seriously? I would kill for you to have even an OUNCE of journalistic clout and have someone who knows what they're doing write an article about this subject. How...DARE you stereotype the "people of the internet," as not being generous? Do you know of the millions upon millions people online donate to charities per year? I invite you to head on over to The Child's Play Charity home page and see the projects associated with "Internet People" and gaming.

    Your company is exactly why Tim Schaffer's struggles to exist in this world: pumping millions of dollars into a machine that churns out ill-informed, poorly-researched, overwrought dreck. Schaffer's games are recognized as milestones in gaming culture. "Grim Fandange," "Day of the Tentacle," "Monkey Island," et al. are examples of outstandingly well-written, marvelously fun games that are on the verge of extinction because people would rather purchase "Call of Duty" sequels that get crapped out year-after-year and heralded as the best games ever.

    To many of the "people of the internet," whom you so brazenly decry, Double Fine Studios represents a hallowed brand name. They made awesome games back when the culture was still gaining its footing. They're still doing a fantastic job, too. "Brutal Legend," was outstanding, but critically panned because people "just didn't get it." Those people being part of a generation of gamers who have no idea what a quality game looks like. I applaud this effort, and I can't wait to see what the dollars of both myself and the those stingy internet people have had a hand in creating.

    February 11, 2012 at 3:31 am | Reply
    • Josh J.

      Well said. Those first two sentences bothered the hell out of me. The only people out there that hold onto this notion that "internet users" are selfish and uncharitable, are the people writing press releases for the RIAA/MPAA goons that see the Internet as some kind of challenge to their carefully designed way of screwing both the public and the artists they supposedly represent.

      Charities like Child's Play have raised millions, from a subset of Internet users often given the absolute worst regard – gamers. An honest look at things would also have started with a simple realization: Everyone is on the Internet, so the charity level of Internet users isn't necessarily restricted to Internet-based activities. This article's premise is false from the very beginning.

      February 11, 2012 at 10:01 am | Reply
      • Kevin

        Very good point. The idea that there is some subset of people who are "of the internet" is a preposterous concept. Everybody is on the internet, as you correctly pointed out. It's obvious that the author is using the phrase "people of the internet" as code for "those filthy, unwashed gamers". I know that this stereotype of the socially-inept basement-dwelling gamer still exists in a lot of peoples' minds, but surely someone with this kind of viewpoint shouldn't be writing a tech blog for CNN! Perhaps the "Living and Eatocracy" section would be more John D. Sutter's speed, whatever the hell that means...

        February 11, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
      • Doodlebug22

        It's like they never heard of games in development being pre-ordered before they are in production.

        February 15, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
      • Liew

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        March 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
    • T1Brit

      You are right to be angry. The beginning of this article shows how journalism usually works. Each piece must be a 'story'. A story must have a certain form. The well known elements being a beginning, a middle and a end, a boy , a girl, good guys, bad guys... Sound familiar? This is supposedly the only way that anybody gives a damn about anything. It is not just 'the people of the interent' who ought to be insulted, it is people who read news also. The world has NEVER fitted into the little boxes that newspapers and their ilk have tried to force it into. The internet is no new, so innovative, that it is revealing things that were previously laughed at to be actually true. people ARE good – they ARE generous, they like to help good things. This is hard world for a journalist to report. It goes against the grain. They need to catch up.

      February 12, 2012 at 5:12 am | Reply
    • SilentBoy741

      " I would kill for you to have even an OUNCE of journalistic clout and have someone who knows what they're doing write an article"

      I'm with you 110%; but around here, that dream dies a little more for me every time "Andrea and Brenna" cash their checks.

      February 29, 2012 at 1:12 am | Reply
      • Sherman

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  36. zorua dude

    honestly, this smells like a scam to steal people's money and either throw out the project or release a poorly made, half baked product that would hardly be even called a game.

    February 11, 2012 at 12:10 am | Reply
    • Rikard Peterson

      Not if you're familiar with the company behind it.

      February 11, 2012 at 10:32 am | Reply
      • BlueTemplar

        How can I be familiar with the company with the lack of details presented to me by the article?!

        February 12, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
      • TruAmerikan

        Blue...there is this new thing called Google....

        February 13, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
      • mhm


        If the entirety of your knowledge comes from CNN articles, how is it you function throughout the day? I mean seriously dude. CNN has lackluster articles written by "journalists" who can't be bothered to research the topic they are supposed to write about. How did you even survive to adulthood?

        February 14, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • Mata

      Direct E-mail Marketing promotions is the fssteat option for sales. Electronic mail is so versatile and comparatively easy to organize, so long as your information base is in good shape. A general email crusade will deliver responses within forty eight hours. This really is the quickest media to generate new company avenues & push the sale.

      July 19, 2012 at 2:37 am | Reply
    • Rozario

      of those bad calls by the refs. We got hosed on at least 2 huge penalties (air quteos). The refs make the right calls there, the game is not nearly as close. Of course Ted will wisely take the best player on the board (or should) but more LBs and DEs couldn't hurt.

      July 21, 2012 at 2:30 am | Reply
  37. Zack

    It's a Video Games Project. Therefore, the game is not called "Double Fine Adventure".

    February 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Reply
    • Robert

      Actually, the game is currently known as Double Fine Adventure. They haven't named the game officially yet because the only things they decided about it up front were it would be an adventure game and it would be funded through Kickstarter. Initially, they didn't even say if they were going to do 2D (like Monkey Island) or 3D (like Grim Fandango..2 games that Double Fine's founders created previously.)

      February 13, 2012 at 7:46 am | Reply
  38. Kevin

    This might be the most badly-written and poorly-informed article I've ever seen on cnn.com, and I've seen some whoppers. One, it's not an "online game", unless you consider a game that you download from the internet "online". Two, this idea of fundraising as some kind of "meta-game" flimsy and nonsensical. Three, the author completely misunderstands the the causes of this sudden "generosity", which has nothing to do with "being part of something epic" (whatever that means), but because the creators, Tim Schafer, Ron Gilbert, and Double Fine Productions, are some of the most well-respected men in their field. This is the result of twenty years of good will and trust that these men have earned from their fans, and yet the author of this article acts as if the "people of the internet" gave their hard-earned money to this project on something of a lark, which couldn't be further from the truth.

    Now I'd like to share a word of advice: If you don't understand something, either make the effort to educate yourself, or don't write about it. I'd love to share even more advice, but I'm not exactly known for my generosity, you see.

    February 10, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Reply
    • Rikard Peterson

      Well said!

      February 11, 2012 at 10:34 am | Reply
  39. Flora

    Sorry, I meant "they're".

    February 10, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Reply
  40. Nathan Sokalski

    The only game related people that are not generous are the businesses that sell the games. Developers love writing the code, and I wouldn't be surprised if the designers said that they enjoyed coming up with the ideas and creating the graphics as well.

    February 10, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Reply
    • woohoo

      Ask truck drivers if they love driving trucks.... and some actually might... and aks if they love driving trucks 8 hours a day almost every single day, in the rain, on bad roads...

      How long have you been writing game code, btw? if less then 5 years, I can understand where you are coming from... If more then 15... well – you are one of those (I would say – not the majority...), congratulations!

      Good luck to Double Fine! They made some good once...

      February 10, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Reply
  41. Flora

    Wow... That game had better be kickass, or their going to have a LOT of angry contributers to answer to!

    February 10, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Reply
  42. Josef F

    I stopped reading after "The people of the Internet – not exactly known for their generosity"

    The writer is an idiot.

    February 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Reply
    • Curtis


      February 10, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Reply
    • Sarkazein

      Why? The "people of the internet" that he refers to are the people that want everything for free (legal or otherwise) and scoff at having to pay for content.

      February 10, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Reply
      • Warren

        A lot of those people that "scoff at paying for content" are upset with the format the content is delivered in, the way in which its made available etc. There are some European films I would love to view, but they are not available in a NA format (wrong region encoding etc). I cannot therefore buy them. I am not saying I have downloaded them illegally mind you, but it would be nice if the MAFIAA got their act together and realized that the market and their industry has changed whether they like it or not, and they need to adapt or die.
        If they want to get rid of a lot of "piracy" all they need to do is offer movies and TV in a readily accessible and convenient format at a reasonable price. Netflix is doing exactly that and I am a happy subscriber. Most of the pay per view services though would charge me almost the cost of 1 month of netflix just to watch a single movie. Some folks will always want to get stuff for free, but a lot of the piracy out there is because people want to view things NOW, not whenever some media company gets around to distributing that content in some form they can access. Until then they are going to see a higher level of piracy.
        As for the original story, bravo to these guys and the Kickstarter people for showing how the 'net can change development strategies and finances. Hope its a great game...

        February 12, 2012 at 9:25 am |
      • SilentBoy741

        Yeah, scoffing at having to pay for content is what has made iTunes, Steam, GOG, and Direct2Drive such abyssmal failures.

        February 29, 2012 at 1:20 am |
    • Katia

      I think you really nalied the ps3 vs xbox for me. I'm on the same video game path, just 6 months behind you. I went with the ps3 for many of the same reasons and am now really looking at getting ana0xbox.When I finally decided to get a console my justification was I wanted to replace the super annoying Samsung bluray player I had. Additionally, I knew a lot of friends had an xbox so I thought I'd go that route to play online games with them until I learned xbox aint't got no bluray. Also, a friend who has worked at Gamestop for a few years told me that the hardware failure rate of the xbox was really high and to get aa0ps3.I bought the ps3 knowing that I at least had a solid bluray player and media center even if I didn't get into the video game aspect of it. I thought I'd give it a go when a few people recommended Uncharted 2 and I was immediately hooked.So I'm really enjoying the game aspect of owning a ps3 and even have a couple of friends on the online thing, but I've never played an online game as most everyone seems to playa0xbox.I'm still in wait-and-see mode, so we'll wait anda0see.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:14 am | Reply
  43. Kyon

    Wise words. to Enjoy the challenge

    February 10, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Reply
  44. Lee s

    Thats first sentence is a real eye opener, You sir, are a moron.I knowthis is donaitons to make a game but, the mindless drones that paTROLL your forums all day might not be not for their generosity, but gamers are. We have fund raisers all the time. And ntm gamers are potentially good candidates for donors. They have expendable income, are usually young, and are in touch with charities. NTM word about things like t his travels fast in gaming circles and communities, so if you are a charity a gaming organization might not be a bad place to pitch your foundation.

    February 10, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Reply
    • C Men

      Hey nerd, your nerd is showing. Nerd.

      February 10, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Reply
      • Smarter than C Men

        You do realize that your average letter usage in your comment was 3.85 words. Why don't we round that up to 4 (giving you a slight break) and then realize that the extent of your ability to communicate extends to swear verbs and simple adjectives... In case you are unsure as to what I am insinuating, here it is in your language: You dumb dumb... You no talk good.

        Might want to look into getting Rosetta Stone for English bud.

        February 10, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
      • C Men

        Say out loud that you love C Men, because you know you do. (not so smart after all are we)

        February 10, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
  45. Nubadopofloposhopolopolis

    How about we all keep the finger pointing and judge & jury mentality to ourselves, hmmm?

    Some people will use any excuse to start an argument. This is how pathetic some peoples' lives have become...and most of them hang out on message boards like this.

    Personally, I wouldn't donate any money to a video game...or any game for that matter. I choose to donate to internet radio stations and dog rescue organizations. But that doesn't mean that I think those who donate to this cause are stupid or wrong. Furthermore, I'm not going to look down at those who don't donate to the same causes as me. Sure it would be nice if everyone did. But the bottom line is that some people just aren't interested...not to mention the money factor.

    So let's just all relax and have a mature rational discussion about the article. Otherwise you look like a noob with FMG9 akimbos.

    February 10, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Reply
    • Big Walt

      It's not really a donation, you're just paying for the game well before you actually get it. If kickstarter were all about real donations nearly none of the projects would ever get off the ground.

      February 10, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Reply
  46. Frank

    Dear John D. Sutter & CNN,
    Please correct the error in this article regarding one of the sources for your information..... it's "The Verge", not "The Verve". Thanks for your time.

    February 10, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Reply
  47. lilgtogirl

    People are starving in this world, and Americans are becoming too poor to feed and clothe their children. People need medicine but cannot afford it. People in the greatest country in the world are homeless. Yet people donate money to start a video game.

    February 10, 2012 at 11:50 am | Reply
    • Jeff


      February 10, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
    • BooHoo

      So you never spend money on entertainment?

      February 10, 2012 at 11:57 am | Reply
    • and?

      And how much of each paycheck do you dontate? Have you never spent money on something you don't need?

      February 10, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Reply
      • Thatchanon

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        March 18, 2012 at 8:38 am |
    • Chris

      People also buy overpriced coffee at Starbucks, pay upwards of $8 for drinks at bars, spend a fortune for gym memberships they never use, go out and spend $12 for a movie ticket and then $15 for a drink and popcorn, buy luxury cars they don't need, jewerly they don't wear and tech devices they throw away a year later, oh my god, how dare they spend their money how they want!

      February 10, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Reply
    • Shuffler

      People fail to plan. People have children that can't afford them.... or more children than they can afford. Folks over extend their finances..... we can't all be responsible for those that are not responsible. If folks would like to donate to feed your kids then fine. Be happy for your handouts. Do not fault those that also donate money to things they like. It is their money to do with as they please. If you want handouts you need to accept what you get and not demand anything.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Reply
    • j

      1.2 million, divided by 35,000 backers comes out to just over $30 per person, on average. Of course some people probably donated more, some people less, but on $30 on average isn't exactly big money.

      And that's the point of crowdsourcing like this. To get a lot of people with similar goals to all chip in a little bit, with HUGE results. $30 is basically skipping starbucks for a week, or if you absolutely MUST have your starbucks, downgrade a few mocha-frappa-chinos to regular drip coffee.

      Plus, Tim Schafer is freaking awesome. His games are all unique, interesting, creative and most of all, fun. I'd much rather see 1.2 million go towards him, instead of something like Madden 2012, '13, '14 and '15.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Reply
    • cody

      think before you talk...thanks

      February 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Reply
      • SilentBoy741

        I tried that once. The experience left me absolutely speechless.

        February 29, 2012 at 1:27 am |
      • Prisi

        Dang this game is epic, but there are some errors i see when plainyg such as:1: My units will get stuck moving from place to place and keep running and then get stuck in the object2: Enemys will get stuck off screen and still shoot3: Skips opening and goes straight to the menu and yeah i didn't click unlessi was opening the game.I do see an empty space in the menu, and i guess you will make Skirmish or Multiplayer using MMF2Dev's oink object. Can't wait to see.

        April 30, 2012 at 7:17 am |
    • Brad

      Who cares, those things will always be around, why should I spend my time helping a useless person that will never contirbute to improving this world? That is their lot in this world, to live short lives. Get over it. I would much rather spend my money on things that will make me and my friends happy. Giveing money to an aid group so they can by food for some 3rd world countries army is not my idea of fun.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Reply
    • t

      self-righteous troll is self-righteous

      February 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Reply
      • Raquel

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        March 19, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
    • m

      Calm down – don't be one of those people who believes that every single spare penny has to go to your idea of a good cause, unless you live that life yourself.

      Personally, I donated $5 to this game, but $300 to Doctors Without Borders, and $500 to a local food closet in 2011.
      You begrudge me the $5?
      You chose to judge 35,000 people with far too little information.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Reply
      • Aaron

        who cares what you did? Why do you think she is addressing you specifically? Why are you offended?

        Her sentiment is clear AND its a SENTIMENT, not some accusatory message to each individual who has donated $5 dollars to this damn game. She's simple saying that its a bit odd that a video game can raise 1 million dollars in 48 hours comparable to a family who goes without proper food and shelter for months or years.

        You got none of it.

        February 10, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
      • 2/8

        That was very kind of you, and I'm not being sarcastic. Without people like you this world would never get ahead 🙂

        February 10, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
      • Shuffler

        Ignore aron's rant. He does not get it. If he wants to support someone who can't feed theirselves or their family then let him. He is the type person who weakens a country. He supports (or acts like he suppots) people who are on the public dole. He in turn takes pot shots at productive people. Typical socialist. People dig their holes and expect others to dig them out. If you can't feed yourself then don't go having kids and don't expect others to support you.

        February 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • jj

      oh lawd, not another "people are dying and all you people care about is...." these posts are so ridiculously boring. dude, its called 'perspective' you know.. why donate to starving children, dont you know in other place children are actually DYING!! why donate to animal shelters, dont you know in other places animals are DYING. why donate to blah blah blah .. my gosh...

      February 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
    • Lokust

      So let me get this straight, you're mad that people are donating money to something that will create jobs, and you feel that art has no value?

      February 10, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Reply
    • David

      How do you knw these people don't donate to charity and help out? Don't critize people you don't know.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Reply
    • jh

      Its my money, of id rather waste it funding a video game, thats my business.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Reply
    • Joe Mama

      I know they should have donated that money to the struggling people. Because once the struggling people have that one time payment of money, they will be all set forever. Are you seriously advocating for "give a man a fish?" If you are suggesting that money should have gone to improving education or something useful, then I would agree that would be nice. But ultimately people are free to do what they want. And don't forget, the video game industry employs a lot of people and generates a lot of tax revenue.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Reply
      • Gullermo

        I don't know yet. I have personally hand built and fully teestd a further 60 units so far. I am meeting the manufacturer today (Thursday) to see how many they have made. They have enough parts for 400, but I do not expect anywhere near that many to be fully ready, maybe another 100 or so if we are lucky. Yesterday at lunchtime when I met with them they had placed parts on 320 boards apart from the connectors which need manual placing. Also all the QFNs go through a visual check and the tuner in particular is manually touched up. I will still need to test all these and rework the HPF first. Until they're teestd I won't know, however I have personally visted them three times now over the past ten days already and I am fairly confident.Busy times.Howard

        May 2, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • NoobozaurusRex

      It's easier to play a video game than it is to think about dying children...this is why people keep them out of sight and out of mind. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but when you try to tell someone what to do, especially with their own money, they are not likely to be persuaded by your comments. Perhaps if you offered something newsworthy enough to get onto the front page of CNN that could help said starving children, it would offer more impact to the cause than the mere comment you have posted that incited negative reaction and response...just my .02.
      How do I help starving children of the world?? Simple, I don't have any children...and don't plan on having any soon. You're welcome.

      February 10, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Reply
      • mason dixon

        good finish lol

        February 22, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
    • Dan

      Poor people need to start developing video games. Problem solved.

      February 11, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Reply
      • SilentBoy741

        Yeah, where's our return-on-investment for that whole One Laptop Per Child business? We should be up to our stack pointers in third-world coders by now.

        February 29, 2012 at 1:34 am |
    • TruAmerikan

      Don't tell me how to spend my money and I won't tell you how to spend yours.

      Mind your own business.

      February 13, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Reply
    • aerunn

      You keep saying that tuenovrrs don't always come through yet they keep happening somehow I would've thought that after being in the top 3 in forced tuenovrrs in the last 3 years, people would be thinking different but it comes up again and again.You can't just pretend that those tuenovrrs didn't happen and say it's a bad defense. You can't brush them off as flukes. It is going to happen almost every single game, because this defense is thought that way, and there's just too many playmakers for it not to happen.

      July 21, 2012 at 1:16 am | Reply
      • Valentine

        Yeah it should be a no braneir.Well now that XBox 360 yearly memberships are being raised to $60, I might push more people to the PS3. $60 is $40 too much for the services I use. Sad that Microsoft is raising the price of something which Sony provides for free. Playstation just needs a more user based interface. Seems so simple.

        October 22, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  48. Aaron

    I can't believe how offended all these internet trolls got from this articles opening line. Relax...he might not be talking about you specifically. Online fundraising is only 7.6 percent of total fundraising. It"s still in its infancy of course, but its so damn easy to click a button and give that that 7.6 percent is really embarrassing. The trolls that have left comments thus far are merely trolls and I'm not trying to feed them, yet correct their flippant responses.

    February 10, 2012 at 11:44 am | Reply
    • Matthew

      Asside from the message then, do you think this is well written?

      February 10, 2012 at 11:55 am | Reply
      • Aaron

        I think attacking someones writing style is like attacking a painting for its use of colors.

        I took this for what it was, a tech article on fundraising. Would I read a novel or short story by Sutter? Probably not, yet people telling him to go back to school because you didn't like the flow of his words...that's absurd.

        February 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Calm Down Aaron

      Wow lil guy, calm down, you over use the word troll, you aggressively ridicule opinions not aligned with your own. change your opinion from one post to the next.

      Relax little man, it's just a board with a bunch of strangers, no need to get all worked up.

      February 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Reply
  49. Travis

    It's sad that game developers can't raise money without their efforts also being called a game. I doubt we'd use the same term if we were talking about record support for a NPR pledge drive offering tote bags and coffee mugs.

    February 10, 2012 at 11:40 am | Reply
    • Aaron

      people always ridicule NPR fundraising tactics...

      February 10, 2012 at 11:52 am | Reply
      • Travis

        But they don't say "Change the channel, it's radio game week". Nor, I suspect, do they call an annual telethon for disease research a "telephone and television game" for reasons beyond the awkwardness of the label.

        February 10, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
      • Aaron

        Right because those are telethons for diseases and this is a video game...Am I missing your point or do you not have one?

        Relevance is huge.

        February 10, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
  50. Sniker

    John D. Sutter, please go back to school remember, we are a mchine of love, but we can also be a machine of pure evil and hate

    February 10, 2012 at 11:28 am | Reply
    • Matthew

      I'm not sure going back to school's gunna help this guy. Writing this terrible and ill-prepared is below the level of even a college newspaper.....

      February 10, 2012 at 11:33 am | Reply
    • Aaron

      You have left out an "a" in "machine" and you've only typed one sentence. I can only imagine what a single paragraph from you looks like.

      February 10, 2012 at 11:56 am | Reply
      • Rob

        Seriously, Aaron, lay off the guy. He made a spelling mistake. As far as I know, he's only human. If you're too much of a butt-hurt to let that slide and find something of value to say, just move on. Come on, man.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:35 am |
  51. Bariclef

    Wow, what a ridiculously generic, biased and unverified comment in the very first line of this story.

    "The people of the Internet – not exactly known for their generosity – gave $1 million in a SINGLE DAY to an online game that hasn't even been created yet."

    What sort of journalism school would permit someone to graduate who – without any proof or followup – would use the phrase "not exactly known for their generosity." Is this the same internet that donated over $200,000 to Doctor's without Borders in December? The same generic, faceless "internet" which donates so much money to Ron Paul? The same "internet" which donated 3.5 million dollars to the Child's Play charity last year alone?

    But no, you're right. The internet is nothing but a bunch of 20-something malcontents who would rather pirate games and music then make a meaningful contribution to society.

    February 10, 2012 at 11:18 am | Reply
    • chris

      AGREED! I dont' think th epreseident would agree either as a large part of his 2008 donations came from a massive online

      February 10, 2012 at 11:38 am | Reply
    • gummyballz

      I was thinking the same thing.... Thanks cuss I just rolled outa bed and was about to tear into him, but you nailed it on the head.....

      February 10, 2012 at 11:42 am | Reply
    • kristina

      exactly, and thank you. now, if you'll excuse me i have to go back to being a societal drain.

      February 10, 2012 at 11:46 am | Reply
    • Aaron

      It's verified, do some work and look up the statistics on fundraising...troll.

      February 10, 2012 at 11:46 am | Reply
      • Ana

        May28 That much hyped facial anaiitmon lies (at least for me) so deep in the uncanny valley , that I fell very distracted by it. Moreover it doesn't match body movement and you can painfully tell, that it was recorded separately from it. Also the whole game look a bit bland. Judging only the look now (as an game developer and 3d artist myself), if you want good looking game happening in the same era, Mafia II did a way better job. I'm not saying that Noire is a bad game, but the hype about its visuals was, once again, just a hype. Don't expect a revolution.a0

        July 18, 2012 at 10:16 pm |
    • chibidw

      I really wish there was a way to force your post to the top so everyone had to read it on the way down.

      February 10, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Reply
      • Aaron

        I really wish you'd look up the statistics on fundraising so you'd realize how moot and boring Bariclef's response to this article was.

        February 10, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
  52. Ross M

    Gamers respect well known creators that have a history of successes behind them. Add to that the fact that the lowest kickstarter contribution (15$) gets you a copy of the game, and the contribution is even more appealing. Other than whatever small cut Kickstarter gets, ALL funds go straight to the development studio, removing all middlemen, and ensuring the game gets the funds it needs.

    I wouldn't expect this to work for every game development shop, but the sense of involvement and certainty that their funds made the game possible, could lead to consumers making more things like this possible.

    February 10, 2012 at 11:17 am | Reply
  53. Matthew

    | The people of the Internet – not exactly known for their generosity

    ...Ummmm, you might want to check on that John. You're reporting on an entrepreneurial donation website, there's also Donor's Choose, and maybe look into some of the charitable drives that have happened on websites like Reddit. Not to mention the massive political contrabutions that come from the internet (especially to people like Obama and Ron Paul). I'm actually generally offened you'd say the internet is not generous; whether the reason is sloppy or a total lack of research on the topic I do not know. For someone that went to Emory, and claims to specialize in tech, I expect better.

    February 10, 2012 at 11:10 am | Reply
    • Aaron

      look up the statistics, troll. Please educate yourself before you try to educate others.

      February 10, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply
      • Matthew

        Even if the total percentage of donations that come from the internet is low, as a total amount of money, it is nothing to sneeze at. Also, thank you for assuming I'm some sort of 'troll'. I'll be sure to inform my student as soon as they are back from lunch (I commented on the article while they were in Music Class). You must be a pretty well educated person to be making blind assumtions about people.

        Maybe I should act a bit like you:

        Enjoy your day Aaron, I hope the job hunt goes well. Don't forget not to wear sweatpants.

        February 10, 2012 at 11:58 am |
      • Eric

        How much is the writer paying you to respond to every negative opinion calling them a "troll". You sound like another idiot who wants drama over facts in their news reporting. Professionalism is important, but I doubt that's something you know or value.

        February 10, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
      • Aaron

        @ Eric. Pure trolling on your part, here I'll feed you a little more.

        I responded with why this IS a professional article and why the assertion IS relevant. Whether or not it tickled the fancy of you esteemed internet trolls taste or not IS NOT relevant. I'm an idiot because I set the facts straight while explaining to people that writing style has nothing to do with whether or not this person needs to "go back to school".

        Troll on Eric, troll on.

        February 10, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • Aaron

      Your first blatant grammatical mistake:
      "I'll be sure to inform my student" (singular) "I commented on the article while they were in Music Class" (plural).

      Moreover, "Music Class" is not capitalized. Where do you teach? You should be let go.

      He who casts the first stone...

      February 10, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Reply
  54. Will N

    When the makers of some of the best point-and-click adventure games (Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango) of all time come to you and ask you for some money to make a new one, of course the internet is gonna make it rain!

    February 10, 2012 at 11:02 am | Reply
  55. Joe

    The writer of this article failed to mention that this game is being developed not by "TIM", but by Tim Schafer, the creator of Grim Fandango and Day of the Tentacle, and all of Lucasarts other huge smash hits of the 80's, 90's, and early 00's. I would totally expect a man with his background to be able to raise these funds on Kickstarter.

    February 10, 2012 at 10:59 am | Reply
    • jk

      "Writer" is even a generous term, considering all he did was comment on press releases, tweets and blogs. And then gets stuff wrong and out of context anyway. (Since when are the "people of the Internet"–i.e., people everywhere–not known for generosity? And isn't this investment rather than charity?) CNN's tech "reporting" is really trashy.

      February 10, 2012 at 11:08 am | Reply
    • Jason

      You are right, this article failed to mention exactly "how" someone raised this amount of money. Name dropping Lucasarts would certainly be a good reason. I find it odd that someone with this background couldn't get traditional investment dollars. Furthermore, people are being hoodwinked if they are "donating" to a major game developer to turn around and let them score a massive profit if this thing is successful. Charity shouldn't go to people that can pay it back. Loans should.

      February 10, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply
      • Jon

        Well according to the article the game studio will be opened up so it sounds like at least the ones that donated will have to opportunity to watch the game being developed. That would definitely be very interesting if true and validate the use of a donation structure rather than a loan. You are paying for a VIP pass to watch it being made. You don't get that kind of privilege from giving them a loan.

        February 10, 2012 at 1:16 pm |

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